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Old 09-08-2014, 01:49 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default TTM PSA/DNA Questionable Authenticity Update

One of the card subs popped today (no BO members on this sub other than me) and the following TTM autos came back questionable for those who care:


Blake Bortles
Julio Jones
AJ Green
JJ Watt
Clem Daniels (really??)
Peyton Manning (most of the time they pass - this is a Topps card and the auto is bubbling - may be why it didn't pass)
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I got crushed on the sub. Didn't think that many TTMs would be bad this time. Guess you don't know until you try....
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Old 09-08-2014, 01:52 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Glad I never sent to Watt I guess. Sucks that those didn't pass.
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Old 09-08-2014, 02:01 PM   #3 (permalink)
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PSA and any authentication company is not the end all. I know people who get items signed in person, and send the items in and they fail. But I do know since these were TTMs and you didnt see them signed, you will have doubts now, as would I.
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I agree alf, while these companies do a good job authenticating things, I have seen first hand how sometimes they are done or not done. Not going to mention the company, but there have been instances where I have witnessed inspection with a fine toothed comb and other times where it has been a glance, yeah, it's good, slap the sticker on and let's go. While there is still trust with these companies, it does beg the question as to who is authenticating them.
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Blake Bortles? Really? Wow. There is video out there of him signing his fan mail and saying that ANYTHING people send him he will sign.

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Old 09-08-2014, 02:29 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Have a pic of the Bortles? I feel like his ttms are legit .
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Won't get them back until Thursday
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I got blake bortles while he was at Ucf. It was the first return I seen from him as I sent to him at the start of last season. I posted a pic of it on twitter thanking him and he liked it so I figured he actually signed it. I'll take a screen shot.
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Old 09-08-2014, 02:55 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Old 09-08-2014, 04:48 PM   #10 (permalink)
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A little off topic OP, but which group sub did you go thru? Curious as I have been looking for a group sub for a while, but no such luck so far
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Old 09-08-2014, 04:54 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I run them twice a year on the CU forum:

Collectors Universe Forums - SUB #1 (CARD SUB) POPPED - ALL SUBS LOGGED ANYONE INTERESTED IN PIGGYBACKING ON A $10 BLUE FLIP SUBMISSION?
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Surprised about Bortles and Watt, still think both were legit.

Not surprised, however, about the AJ Green and Julio Jones results.
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Old 09-08-2014, 08:35 PM   #13 (permalink)
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That sucks in general, but especially Watt and Bortles? WTH.
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I would be interested in seeing the Peyton signature
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I thought Watt would come back authentic as well as Bortles. I feel confident the Mannings are legit...I agree that maybe the bubbling caused them to think twice.
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Had another sub today. Looks like you can add the following as TTM items PSA/DNA looks to be deeming as unreal:

Luke Kuechley
Miguel Cabrera - With a $35 donation I'd be mad about this. There were about 10 from members who submitted and they ALL were rejected. If the Tigers are ghost signing his stuff and pocketing the rest I'd be pretty upset with this....

Mike Trout
Clayton Kershaw
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Kershaw....... Man that sucks! Stop bringing us bad news ha ha
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I'm just a reporter.....better to spend $11 than $30 to find out.
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I got hammered on this one. Jesus
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Sad to see the wiggins didn't come back authentic. Got it as a 50/50 from bubbles. Really surprised that the wiggins and manning didn't get slabbed. Oh well I guess I'll try again on those two
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I made out like a bandit, very surprised (and happy!) That the Manning and Smith passed. Shocked that Kuechly didn't pass. Oh well, I'll take 25/26

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Sad to see the wiggins didn't come back authentic. Got it as a 50/50 from bubbles. Really surprised that the wiggins and manning didn't get slabbed. Oh well I guess I'll try again on those two
I'm tempted some time to submit some IP autos that I've gotten over to see what they say. The only problem is that I know they are legit since I saw them get signed, and feel like it would be wasted money sending them in. And I don't really doubt that the Kershaw returns are authentic. PSA can be tough to gauge sometimes
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83584789 2009 Goodwin Champions 45 Peyton Manning Peyton Manning Inconclusive/Unable to Render Opinion

Does this mean they refund your money on this sub?
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83584789 2009 Goodwin Champions 45 Peyton Manning Peyton Manning Inconclusive/Unable to Render Opinion

Does this mean they refund your money on this sub?
Yes, I believe so. In the form of a credit
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Old 09-11-2014, 05:36 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Well I will just resubmit it next time I guess
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