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Old 02-24-2013, 08:48 AM   #1 (permalink)
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First of all, glad to see new vintage section.

I know this is very subjective and it is based on opinion, but what vintage cards would you say are overvalued and which are undervalued.

Just to name 5 of each, here it goes for me:

Over:

1967 Tom Seaver RC - High number series, but 5x McCovey's or Stargells Rookie??
1909 Honus Wagner - Should be worth a lot because of it being scarce and the holy grail but $350000 in good condition?
1963 Pete Rose RC - I would say not way overvalued, but just a little, $1000 is a lot for this card.
1952 Topps Mickey Mantle - Not his True rookie card, is it true this is double printed?
1958 Topps Roger Maris Rookie card - See Rose, except replace $1000 with $500.

Also, I'll mention Tommy Lasorda, awesome mgr, but a $250 rookie card? and Andy Pafko card #1 in 1952 Topps plus Rod Carew's 1967 Rookie.

Under:

1960 McCovey RC (one of the greatest hitters of all-time should be > $120)
1963 Stargell RC (See above)
1957 Frank Robinson RC (IMO this card should be worth more, plus 50's cards much more scarce than 60's.
1933 Goudey Ruth ($8000 is a lot, but it's the greatest player of all-time on a card that is 80 years old)
1949 Bowman George Kell (A great hitter during his time should equate to a card worth more than $80, plus it's his RC to boot.)

Also I'll mention, 1962 Lou Brock's RC, and 1955 Killebrew's RC.
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-'Overvalued' is an odd thing. Most of us use money/sales as a valuation tool. And what is this sale value/money spent but an indication of what collectors will pay?

All baseball cards are 'overvalued' from an economic utility perspective. But as a hobby, it's about the market of collectors. Not a great ROI for investors, but a stable one for vintage collectors.

The 1952 Mantle is the most iconic post-war piece of cardboard out there, period. Just like diamonds, it isn't in as short supply as others of its kind, but it is *the* card to own of the post war stuff. It has an insulated market with most vintage collectors, and is only bought for what people will pay.

The Pafko is a condition thing. #1 card in the set met with a rubber band surface more often than not, according to the wives tales. I don't necessarily believe it should have that much of an influence on price, but there's a sizeable NM drop off with that one. Add in that the Pafko went through at least 3 printings, it is not in short supply.

Stargell's career in managing, under 500 HR, etc hurt the value spike on his card, and not many people actually know who George Kell was anymore, even vintage collectors. Some things to ponder, but at the end of the day, i'd say every single card ever made is 'overvalued' from a certain point of view.

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I'd say that vintage FB is undervalued compared to baseball.

With regard to specific players...I'd say Unitas is way overvalued compared to Baugh & Otto Graham.
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Overvalued-Nolan Ryan and Joe Namath

Undervalued-Tom Seaver
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I agree with everything but the Pete Rose part
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With the 1933 Goudey Ruth card(s), there are 4 of them in the set, so $ 7000-8000 per is not that bad actually, IMO.

There certainly are some vintage cards that are undervalued, to say the least.
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