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Old 10-19-2013, 04:05 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Goudey or T-206?

Thinking of picking up some Poor to VG pre-war baseball singles.
Some of the oldest cards I have are from the 50's, so do not know much about prewar.
What would you folks suggest T-206 Tobacco cards or 1933 or 1934 Goudey.
Now I was thinking the Goudey would be a little more affordable, but the T206 is where it's at for pre-war.
I am thinking of budgeting for a few stars and HOFS, but mostly commons, maybe picking up 2 or 3 a month (slowly getting into it) It would be nice to save up for Cobb, Mathewson, W.Johnson, Ruth, Gehrig, but I mean I might really have to save up.... I would just like to get my feet wet first and then see where it goes.



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Old 10-19-2013, 04:45 PM   #2 (permalink)
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T206 obviously has a high level of prestige associated with it, but I'm actually very fond of the T205 set. I love the colors.
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Old 10-20-2013, 06:03 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Actually, really leaning towards T-206 over Goudey, but I will do more research on the T-205.

I can't believe the value in T-206's, I noticed even a beat up Cobb, Lajoie, Tinker etc... go for about 50% of book value.
I've noticed cards from the 50's to the 70's there is a MAJOR drop-off in prices even when the card is VG, heck I picked up a few minor stars in 1956 topps for 10 to 20 % of book and they just had soft corners and NO Creases.
Is it because it is almost impossible to find T-206's in high grade, perhaps they are 100 year old cards that in really in demand!!!
I'm really interested in getting a few t-206, just cool to have some 100 year old cards, looks like I might have to stick to commons maybe lol.
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Old 10-20-2013, 06:12 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I think the market for late 19th century-early 20th century tobacco cards extends far beyond the typical card collecting market. They're viewed as legitimate historical artifacts.
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Old 10-20-2013, 05:27 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I've got one of each (T-206 and '33 Goudey), both in rough shape but I think they are pretty cool in their own rights. Even if you decide to go in one direction, I'd pick up one of the other just to have one...
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Goudey have more visual appeal, IMHO...
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Old 10-20-2013, 08:52 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I would take the T-206. I only have 1 and they are amazing. You can't go wrong either way though
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Old 10-21-2013, 03:27 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Both are classic, but both are monsters (especially t206). I collected specifically t206's for five years and almost got half way before bogging down. Multiple's of Cobb, WoJo, Matty, and others add up quickly not to mention all the other premiums. Southern League commons pop at $100-$150 for poor examples now. The handful of horizontals command a premium. Several commons are hyped up for almost no reason (Chase Pink Port. because...well...it's pink, Titus because he has an awesome mustache...seriously) and the various SP's, variations, and rare backs lead to bidding wars between collectors with deep pockets. That being said it is the most beautiful set ever printed with a cast of characters that can not be equaled. For a set that is over a century old and in such high demand it is not, however, outrageously rare save for a handful of specific cards - Wags, Plank, Magie Error, etc - and affordable examples can be picked up easily.

The more collectors we can bring in Pre-War the better. PM me and I'll send you an example of both sets on me.
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Old 10-21-2013, 09:36 AM   #9 (permalink)
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How about option 3 the 1910 T210 Minor League set. I recently picked up the 3 pictured. To me they are a much better looking card than the T206's.
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Both of course
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Old 10-22-2013, 11:33 AM   #11 (permalink)
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My two active sets...1933 Tattoo Orbit and 1934 Goudey.

So...go after the 206s. Something about that crisp color contrast and simplicity.
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Old 10-22-2013, 01:12 PM   #12 (permalink)
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You might get one of each and see what you like better. I like them all but if had to choose between Goudey and T206 I would take T206......You can't go wrong either way...



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Old 10-22-2013, 11:52 PM   #13 (permalink)
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That Ferrell is just great Leon. Love seeing it.
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Old 10-23-2013, 09:45 AM   #14 (permalink)
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That Ferrell is just great Leon. Love seeing it.
Glad you like it. The T206 print freaks are all the rage. I got this one right before they took off in value but it was still close to 5 figures.....but hey, there aren't many like it. And yes, that is a ghost image of Cy Young on the back..

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Old 10-23-2013, 01:06 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Im glad to see this post as i've been thinking on the same lines, 206,205,goudey

I picked up 2 graded t206 a few weeks ago and they are just so cool for a reasonable price.
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I'm trying to talk myself into a psa 5 goudey set. Would never go after t206 due to the untouchable Wagner. Have some and they are nice however
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I'm putting together a T205 SGC 60 or better set. Absolutely love collecting vintage compared to the new stuff--although I still buy the new stuff of course.

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Old 11-04-2013, 05:52 AM   #18 (permalink)
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Having not decided 100%, I am going to card show this weekend, looking at the selection and then deciding.
I did notice that T206 has more star players (could because of a bigger set)
and factoring in the quality of players vs the Goudey, I believe better value.
E.Collins, Speaker, Lajoie, Crawford in Poor to VG are actually affordable to me.
But, I am going to check the selection out, from there, I am likely going to venture onto ebay and then pick up some more... on which I decide, leaning towards T206.
I was looking at the common prices for T206 in VG around ($30 - $35)
Sounds like a good deal!

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Old 11-22-2013, 03:40 PM   #19 (permalink)
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You've got great taste. I would go with T206's, and if funding is tight for you (like it is for me) you might consider going after a team set if the team you're a fan of now was around in some fashion back then.

I'm a Braves fan, so I recently put together a low-grade Boston Nat'l team set. I thought it was cool to see my favorite team 100+ years ago: COMPLETE! My T206 Boston Nat'l Team Set

I've actually considered moving on to Goudey next, as I don't have any cards at all from that era of collecting and Goudey's are really beautiful as well, but I have a 1952 Bowman set I'm trying to complete first, as I have a bad habit of starting more projects than I can finish.

Anyway, my advice is to go with T206. Once you get the first one in your hands, it's hard to stop.
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Old 01-20-2014, 03:20 PM   #20 (permalink)
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I think the 1933 goudey set is one of the best looking early sets made. Only trouble with that set is there are several players in it that never even made it to pro baseball. Plus finding the lajoe is near impossible. Still its a cool set with tons of stars. I believe 4 different Ruth's are in it. Good luck either way you decide all those older sets are fantastic to me. You can't go wrong no matter what you pick
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The only answer is both of course
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